| Complainant: |
Mr S Shaw |
| Town/City
of Residence: |
Chorley |
I purchased an Ericsson T65 handset, sim free and offline, from
the carphone warehouse in August 2002. After approximately 7 weeks,
the handset developed numerous faults, and I returned it to the
store. The assistant seemed disinterested in anything I had to
say, and informed me in an offhand manner that it, "Could
take up to 14 days to repair if it could not be done in store,
but it probably can. Ring up tomorrow".
I was not offered a replacement handset for the duration of the
repair. I called the store the following day as requested. I was
spoken to in an ill mannered fashion, was constantly called "Pal"
by the sales assistant, something which I consider to be both
arrogant and offensive, who then proceeded to shout across the
store, "When will this bloke's handset be ready?" I
did not hear the reply but was informed in the same lazy and offhand
manner that it would would have to sent away.
I returned to the store the following week and spoke to the sales
assistant who sold me the handset. Again, I was given the same
offhand answers to my questions and when I asked about a temp
replacement handset I was informed in rather a brusque tone that
none were available. When I pointed out that I did not have a
spare phone and was not offered a handset whilst mine was being
repaired, I was told that this was because "We haven't got
any, that's why"
The handset was returned to me after being repaired. On 01/01/03
I completed a customer satisfaction survey and emailed a copy
to Charles Dunstone at their head office, outlining the comments
mentioned above. On 10/01/03 I received a standard generated reply
from 'Shane C' at the office of Charles Dunstone stating that
he was sorry I found the service of their sales representative
unsatisfactory and I would like to assure me that my experience
is not indicative of the level of Customer Service they demand
and he apologises for any inconvenience that may have been caused,
and he hopes they can be of assistance to me again in the future.
4 weeks later, the handset developed more faults. I contacted
my local trading standards office and a local solicitor who helped
me prepare a letter asking for a full refund on the grounds that
the handset was inherently faulty at the time of purchase. It
was returned to the store with a copy of the letter, a copy of
which was forwarded to Mr Dunstone, and the assistant manager
said he would send the handset for repair again but he could not
give me a refund as it was outside their 28 days handset returns
deadline.
The handset was sent away for repair a second time. Again,I was
not contacted by the store as to when my handset was ready for
collection. After another 2 weeks, I returned to the store and
spoke to the manager. I was informed that the handset was beyond
economical repair due to liquid ingress of the handset. I was
absolutely livid, as the handset has NEVER been subjected to conditions
where liquid of any description could enter into the internal
components.
I have owned a number of ericsson handsets over the years, and
this one was subject to the same daily conditions as all my other
ones (which incidentally are still in working order) The manager
offered the services of the onsite engineer to show me the liquid
damage. I am still to return to the store to take him up on his
offer. I sent another email to Charles Dunstone, outlining everything
that had happened. That was on 05/03/03. As of even date I have
received one reply stating my email had been received and was
being dealt with.
I have had the handset examined by an official Ericsson service
centre, who have shown me the alleged liquid ingress. In their
opinion, there is nothing alien to the pcb, battery or microphones
which could be construed as liquid ingress. There were markings
on the screen which could have been caused by condensation drying
out, similar to streaking left behind on a window that has not
been washed properly. These were promptly and easily removed by
rubbing with a glass cleaning cloth. As far as the service centre
staff were concerned, the Carphone Warehouse have come up with
a convenient excuse not to deal with my handset - that they were
being 'petty'.
As far as I am aware, the Carphone Warehouse could return the
handset to Ericsson, and return my money as a gesture of goodwill
on their behalf. It does not seem worth applying for a CCJ for
the return of my money as it would probably cost the same amount
as the claim. As it is, I am now stuck with a faulty handset that
the retailer now refuses to mend, and a very nasty taste in my
mouth re the Carphone Warehouse.
Maybe they should consider changing their motto from "A better
mobile life" to "Caveat Emptor"
Links to other Carphone Complaints: Link1
update from Mr
Shaw on the 8 April 2003:
"Thank you for recent email. I have since spoken to the manager
of the carphone warehouse store at Horwich with regard to my next
course of action regarding my handset. His reply was that he suggested
I advertise the handset in my local Loot and hope that somebody
would buy it.
I cannot begin to find the words to describe my utter contempt for
this company and their blindingly arrogant employees.
Please also find a copy of my last letter attached to this email.
As of even date I have received no reply. S C Shaw"
Update on 12 April 2003
Following Carphone's request, Mr shaw sent them
his customer number. A full response has now been received: click
here for details.
Mr Shaw's comment: "you can see from it's
content they're still banging the old "It's liquid ingress
and you can't prove it's not" drum. It seems that the word
of an official ericsson repair centre engineer is not good enough."
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Assuming your claim is successful
and you obtain a CCJ against them you'd also be entitled to recover
your costs, albeit fixed, plus the issue fee etc. You could draft
the papers yourself quite easily.
Jonathan...8 April 2003
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Funnily enough i work for a mobile
phone manufacturer. And to be honest a large number
of people do suffer `liquid damage` in their handsets. If people
only read their manuals they would see the list of do's and dont's
regarding mobile phones.
Carphone Warehouse are the only retailer most manufacturers trust
to repair their handsets and this is because theyre more than capable
of doing so. if they dont repair it, the manufacturer will not pay
them and so i very much doubt they "came up with an excuse
not to deal with with your handset".
They are a business, manufacturers only pay them if they comlplete
the repair. in your case they didnt complete the repair as you have
mistreated your handset. People fail to realise a phone is an electrical
device. It isnt for using in the rain, you cant leave it in the
car over night, you cant leave it on a window ledge. All of these
things cause liquid ingress. If you had to carry a TV around with
you all day would you be so careless? i think not!
Bobby .. 2 July 2003
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I think the trading standards are a waste
of time. How can carphone
decide a 28 day cut off. I might not think that is a 'reasonable
time'.
I had to wait 7 weeks for them to rpair my phone they did not phone
me. DO NOT BUY YOUR PHONE FROM CAR PHONE WAREHOUSE.
Elliot ... 19 August 2003
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I find their attitude disgusting.
They have no sense of customer service whatsoever. This story has
similarities to an ongoing situation that I am experiencing. I will
never be shopping there again. I will be contacting Watchdog about
my experiences. Dan Weir ... 21 August 2003
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