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Watford
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Complainant:
Ms T Allington
Town/City of Residence:
Watford


On 1 May 2001 I purchased from B&Q Watford a Bernstein Mayfield white kitchen. There are many problems which we have experienced with this kitchen, none of which I believe have been resolved to a satisfactory level.

We bought just base units for the kitchen, but later decided that we would require some wall cabinets for extra storage space. We were informed by Ms C at B&Q Watford that the store no longer deals with Bernstein so she could not order any cabinets. She advised us to go to a larger store. We went to B&Q Thurrock, where Pringle kindly ordered the cabinets for us.

However, a week later, we were informed by Pringle that since our original order was done with B & Q Watford, and because the Mayfield kitchen was to be discontinued, we would have to order through B&Q Watford. We went back to the Watford store to speak to Ms C again who said that she would contact Bernstein, to palm us off.

She said that she would call us back. That was the 30 September 2001, and almost a year later, we are still waiting to hear back. Fed up of waiting, we found some similar cabinets in Ikea and purchased those instead.

We have had parts for our taps sent twice due to a recurring fault. However, this is only one part of the kitchen which is faulty, the only part we haven’t had problems with is the dishwasher.

On May 9 2002, we had our hob fixed that we bought with the kitchen, since the back left hob was not heating up properly. The back right hob has now also gone. The hob is only used by myself and my partner, so it is not as if it has been exposed to excessive use. I feel upset that I should have to buy another hob, but feel that I have very little choice, since it has gone wrong twice in the first year. If we pay to get it fixed again, the chances are it will go wrong soon after anyway.

However, I have not yet got onto the worst of my problems, the handles supplied with the Mayfield white kitchen. At the beginning of May, two of the plastic supplied handles broke off in my hand as I was opening a cupboard.

We had already been looking for plastic handles that length to swap on the base cabinets, and put on our new wall cabinets. We could not find any handles that length, and have looked in Ikea, Homebase, B&Q, Wickes’, Focus and several smaller DIY stores.

I phoned B & Q watford and spoke to Mr R who said that I should call the manufacturers regarding this, as they hold the years warranty.

I then phoned Bernstein and spoke to Ms P. She questioned how they broke, and when I said that they are plastic, she replied ‘I’m not surprised’ [that they broke]. She advised that the warranty is held with the store, not with Bernstein, so I decided to go into the store to seek a resolution, since my contract of sale is with them anyway.

I again went to see Ms C in the Watford store who said that plastic handles were not very good, and that we should buy some metal handles from their range. I explained that there were none the same length as the Mayfield handles. She even measured them herself. She said that she could replace them with the same handles. I was angry at this point, as not only was I told to BUY handles to replace defective ones, which I feel I shouldn’t have to, but she even offered to replace the defective handles with two more defective handles. She said that there was nothing more she could do.

I then rang B&Q Customer Careline to see if I could seek a further resolution with them. I again explained to the man on the phone that the handles were plastic, and he said that he had calls on this before. He said he’ll seek a resolution, as I said that there was no point in replacing faulty plastic handles with more of the same, since if two had broken in the first year, and kitchens are designed to last at least ten years, I would need at least another twenty handles.

The only resolution sought by the Careline was to call B&Q Watford, then call me back and tell me the same ‘we can only replace them with the same handles’. I explained that this was no good, since the handles ‘were not fit for the purpose for which they were sold’, Sale of Goods Act section 13, meaning that they were not fit to be kitchen handles if they do not have the ability to last a year.

To which, the man responded ‘they are fit for the purpose as they are designed for the Mayfield kitchen and sold with that’. Does this mean that staff are not trained correctly on consumer issues, or that the faulty handles were designed to fit a faulty kitchen, and were therefore fit for the purpose?

Seeking no resolution, we went back to B&Q Watford at the beginning of May to order some more of the Mayfield handles. Two were ordered. We then went back at the beginning of June and spoke to Ian Somers. We explained that we had not received these handles and that more of the handles are cracking. We were told that they would order ten, obviously knowing that we would have future problems. We still have not received these.

We received a call last week stating that they are in stock, but I do not want more faulty handles.

I am so disappointed by the fact that every handle in my kitchen is cracking or has already broken. Me and my partner are the only habitants of our flat, it’s not as though there are children hanging off them all day, it’s simply because the quality of the kitchen is so poor.

I then decided to get in touch with Citizens Advice Bureau, Watford. They have explained and confirmed my thoughts. That you cannot replace the handles with more defective ones, and that if you cannot find handles the right length, rather than making extra holes in the front of our doors, you are liable for the doors as well.

Due to the fact that we were advised by the Citizens Advice Bureau to reap my costs back through the small claims court, we will start now.

We will purchase some kitchen doors to replace the one’s with defective handles. We will then start proceedings with the small claims court and we will provide you with a date.

Although the doors are defective, they are not the only part faulty:

A hob ring stopped working, which was replaced, now the back right hob ring is not working either, and blows our fuse box every time we turn it on

Our sink tap parts have been replaced twice

To reiterate the reasons why we are purchasing new doors:

Two of our original handles broke

We still have not received replacement handles

ALL the handles in our kitchen are now cracking in exactly the same place, proving that the handles are defective~

The replacement handles we have been offered are exactly the same defective plastic ones we already have

We cannot purchase replacement handles and get our costs back that way as we have been unable to find any the same length and are not prepared to have holes in our new kitchen doors

The manager from the Watford store was to come to our house, he then said that he was on annual leave and the deputy manager would be with us on 1 October 2002. Instead of her, Ian Summers came round. He is just a kitchen designer, so there really was no point in him coming round, with no authority to do anything. He then measured all our kitchen doors, and said that he would forward the information on.

We received a letter from Head Office's customer service from Suzi Wilson, stating that ‘all outstanding issues are now resolved’. This is not so.

If we do not hear anything by 1 January 2003, we will be buying doors from a reliable store and reap our costs back through the small claims court.

All the above are abstracts from three letters, sent in June, July and August, which have been CC'd to the store's head office too.

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Well I was disgusted when I was sent from B&Q in Gallows corner to B&Q in Thurrock after confirming from Thurrock B&Q that there was a timber cutter there till 9pm. On reaching Thurrock B&Q I found that thier timber cutter was out of order from early afternoon that day.

On speaking to B&Q in Gallows corner again I was told that the lady at Customer Services had spoken to Duty Mgr at Thurrock and the attitude was such that nobody was apologetic and seemed that they didnt bother if they had sent me all the way and that they had wasted my time and petrol.

On speaking with duty mgr. in Thurrock, he said that someone else would have been contacted as he had not handled a call from Gallows corner B&Q. Although he was apologetic he kept saying that he didnt receive a call.

Not something I expect from a big store like B&Q. I cant trust anyone in B&Q now. Even if I call from home before going and ask if the timber cutter was working, I cant be sure of the answer I get. And there would be nobody bothered about it. Disgusting. R. Bahtia .. 11 June 2004
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Oh i was just going to buy a kitchen will change my mind now thanks. Shelly...20 January 2003
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I spent nearly £300 pounds in your B&Q middlesbrough store
and paid £15 for a delivery, I think it is disgusting that you cannot say if deliveries are am or pm I have wasted a full day sitting in watching a window waiting for this delivery it is now 5.30pm and still no delivery do you think this is good customer servive from a company your size
Sheila Appleyard ... 22 September 2003
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I bought a B&Q kitchen last year and am just finishing it.
There is no bulit in fixing on some wall cabinets so presumably I must go out and buy brackets ! Also one of the wall cabinets is missing some of the front white edging so I have gone to buy that. (I cannot face the wait of getting this sorted - and besides when I phoned up was told they cannot obtain these cabinets any more !).

They do not give you the option of paying a home delivery charge if you order fewer than their required number of cabinets. I would not buy again. Having fitted 3 IKEA kitchens before this I can honestly say I would rather fit 3 IKEA to one B&Q. Ian Baldwin ... 3 October 2003
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Twice i ordered items on line from b & q
and was told: 1st time it didn't go through, even though i was instructed to print out invoice. How can i be told electrinically to print, yet it did not go through?

Second time i had to repeat 3 times the info from my print out. I was told in the centre at the top in orange"thank you for your custom" mine said "thank you". My complaint is not against the computer system, it is against staff with a hostile and accusitive attitude.i was told my printer was wrong i complain to customer service.

First time it go buried, bracause when i called c.s again, there was no record. I was promised something would be done!!(should have asked which year) called again. I insisted on speaking to someone higher up the totem pole.that took 3 efforts. All i got was an e mail "madam we have no record of your order". No apology, no nothing. They wil have no nothing of my money ever.
P jones … 10 october 2003
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The delivery of my order for a radiator was cancelled twice
the night before it was due to be delivered, as the delivery company had been told the item was not at the time in stock - this despite the fact that a clear time for delivery was made and that the item was not marked on the website diy.com as out of stock. The delivery company Delivery to Home stated that they expected to make a delivery and at no time did diy.com have either the courtesy, or the wit, or the systems in place to let me know that there was a problem with the order.

I contacted diy.com after the second failure and was told that they definitely now had the item and assured me that a delivery would be made within 14 days. A time was set, again not by diy.com but by a delivery company. I've now been told by the delivery company that once again they have been told there is no radiator. And once again nobody at diy.com seems to have bothered telling me.

The delivery company has on all three occasions given me two B&Q telephone numbers for me to contact. If you ring the first, you get an out of order message, and the other gets you through to a B&Q customer services department which won't handle its online diy.com orders, so it looks as if they've got two unintegrated databases. R A Wood...11 November 2003
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Dear sir, my complaint is this. On friday 28th Nov, I visited the Ipswich B and Q store.I work as an activities co ordinator for the Prince of Wales Home. I have taken our residents there on many occasions and found the staff wonderful. So I was really shocked and upset by the attitude of the customer service desk.

I had a resident in a wheelchair with me and all we wanted was some help to buy plants for the home after waiting ten minutes to be served I asked if it would be possable to have some assistance with choosing the right plants.I was told she would get someone after another five mins and her chatting away on the phone she said she did not think there was anyone in the whole store who could help and to come back another day.

For a store of this size I cannot believe there was not one person to help.Her manner was very off handed I really think that the older generation deserve a little bit of time and respect.The resident had looked forward to this trip and had enjoyed going there in the summer but after this trip I left with a really down hearted old man .I then took him to the Range in Ipswich who restored his faith that he is not a burdon to shop staff.Pat Palmer...30 November 2003
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